[Gogglist_pub] FW: Kilnascrene goggles

[Tom Beauchamp-Arnold]

>From Gordon...

Thomas Beauchamp-Arnold
Owner
tom-ba at tba-consulting.com
Tel 617.787.5720
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Wardle [mailto:magic at thatusefulsite.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:10 AM
To: Tom Beauchamp-Arnold
Subject: Re: [Gogglist_pub] Kilnascrene goggles

Tom,
You are correct. With the goggles in series there is almost total  
darkness  except for the faint light from a lightbulb or from the  
windows. When looking outside the house I can see the silhouette of  
trees and houses against the bright sky. I can also see some objects  
that reflect sunlight (e.g. the white roof a car) but not much else.

Gordon.


Quoting Tom Beauchamp-Arnold <tom-ba at tba-consulting.com>:

> And welcome to the list, Gordon.
>
> I over-stated my claim when I said you would see total blackness if you
put
> a Kilnascrene in series with a #5 welding glass; you will see a very, very
> dark scene.  If you look at a very bright source, such as a brilliant
> floodlamp, you will see a dim deep-blue image.
>
> This will happen with your green goggles in series with your Kilnascrene
if
> my guess about what they are is correct.
>
> Peace,
> tom
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gogglist_pub-bounces at primummobile.org [mailto:gogglist_pub-
>> bounces at primummobile.org] On Behalf Of Tom Beauchamp-Arnold
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:35 PM
>> To: 'Gogglist public'; 'Gordon Wardle'
>> Subject: Re: [Gogglist_pub] Kilnascrene goggles
>>
>> Gordon,
>> 	Thank you for contacting gogglist_pub-- I've OK'd your message as a
>> non-member to the list.  If you want to have a discussion, you might want
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>> It does appear that you have a pair of authentic Kilnascrene with
original
>> box.  A very interesting find-- Congratulations!
>>
>> The manufacturing of the rims on the green pair appear to be the same as
>> on
>> Mr. Boddington's Kilnascrene, which leads me to speculate that he did
make
>> them, or perhaps had the Kilnascrene made by the same firm who made the
>> other goggles.
>>
>> Walter Kilner and Oscar Bagnall both speak of using red and yellow
filters
>> of various densities to isolate different parts of the aura for
>> observation.
>> I don't believe I've read of either of them using a green filter,
however.
>> To be sure, I'll have to check, though.
>>
>> John J. Williamson, on the other hand, has advocated using green filters
>> made from chlorophyll to observe the aura, as well as the more usual.
I'm
>> working on making a scan of a 1957 paper by JJW which mentions this,
among
>> other topics.
>>
>> I wonder if the green goggles are welding goggles from the time Harry
>> Boddington had the Kilnascrene made?  Having taken a similar tactic
myself
>> (using an existing welding goggle as a base to construct an aura goggle,)
>> this certainly seems a possibility.
>>
>> One thing I can predict is that if you look through the goggles in
series,
>> you should see complete blackness.  The Kilnascrene completely rejects
>> green, and a welding goggle would completely reject non-green, if the
>> transmission spectrum is anything like ANSI welding glass #5 (filter
>> supplied in standard welding goggles.)  You might try that for your
>> amusement; I would be very interested in your report.
>>
>> I am assuming that contrary to the box label, you do NOT have complete
>> instructions enclosed with your goggles.
>>
>> I have a pamphlet of Harry Boddington's which gives his instructions for
>> use
>> of the Kilnascrene.  I am planning on posting that if I can wrestle
>> OmniPage
>> to the ground (so far, OmniPage is winning.)
>>
>> Peace,
>> tom
>>
>> Thomas Beauchamp-Arnold
>> Owner
>> tom-ba at tba-consulting.com
>> Tel 617.787.5720
>> www.tba-consulting.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: gogglist_pub-bounces at primummobile.org [mailto:gogglist_pub-
>> > bounces at primummobile.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Wardle
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:28 PM
>> > To: gogglist_pub at primummobile.org
>> > Subject: [Gogglist_pub] Kilnascrene goggles
>> >
>> > At an antiques fayre I obtained what appears to be a set of original
>> > Kilnascrene blue goggles. Also, in the box, were a pair of green
>> > goggles. The green pair do not have any markings on the rim and the
>> > green goggles are a different style.
>> >
>> > Does anyone recognise the green pair? did Boddington make/sell any
>> > green goggles ?
>> >
>> > any advice would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > The attached picture shows the box and goggles. The green goggles are
>> > on the right. The kilnascrene goggles on the left.
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> > Gordon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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